Separating weak and full universality for F-sigma relations

Construct an $F_\sigma$ relation with the weak universality property but not the universality property, and determine whether such a relation can induce a $\sigma$-ideal that is provably $\mathbf{\Delta}^1_2$ on $\mathbf\Sigma^1_1$.

Background

The paper gives a GδσG_{\delta\sigma} relation whose induced forcing has the weak universality property but whose relation lacks the full universality property. It then asks whether the analogous separation can occur already for FσF_\sigma relations, including under the additional definability requirement that the induced ideal be provably Δ21\mathbf{\Delta}^1_2 on analytic sets.

References

We do not know whether the two universality notions can be separated with an $F_\sigma$ relation.

Is there an $F_\sigma$ relation with the weak universality property but not the universality property? What if the induced ideal is also provably $\mathbf{\Delta}1_2$ on $\mathbf\Sigma1_1$?

Universal domination and idealized forcing  (2608.18964 - Schilhan, 19 Aug 2026) in Question labelled \ref{quest:Fsigmasepuniv}, Section 3, subsection “Simple examples”