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Elementary embedding into the HNN extension over a finite subgroup

Prove that for a non-elementary hyperbolic group G and a finite subgroup C such that N_G(C) is non-elementary and C is the maximal finite subgroup normalized by N_G(C), the inclusion G ↪ G′ defined by the HNN extension G′ = ⟨G, t | tg = gt for all g ∈ C⟩ is an elementary embedding (not merely an EAE-embedding).

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Background

Theorem \ref{EAE} shows that under the stated hypotheses the inclusion G ↪ G′ is an EAE-embedding. The authors conjecture a stronger result: that the embedding is elementary. Achieving this would require quantifier elimination tools beyond current results (which are available in the torsion-free case only).

Establishing elementary embedding here would provide a powerful extension principle for hyperbolic groups with torsion and clarify the model-theoretic behavior of HNN extensions over finite subgroups.

References

Note that the group $G'$ is simply the HNN extension of $G$ over the identity of $C$. We conjecture that $G$ is elementarily embedded into $G'$, but the proof of this conjecture would require a quantifier elimination procedure which is currently only known for torsion-free hyperbolic groups.

Homogeneity in Coxeter groups and split crystallographic groups (2504.18354 - André et al., 25 Apr 2025) in Section 'A non-homogeneous hyperbolic Coxeter groups' (Remark after Theorem \ref{EAE})